Vehumet - Revision history

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	'''[[Piety\|Piety level ***]]''': "Traumaturge"		'''[[Piety\|Piety level ***]]''': "Traumaturge"
	*'''Aid to destructive magic''' - Your chance of miscasting destructive spells is significantly reduced, roughly equal to having 2 stacks of [[wizardry]].		*'''Aid to destructive magic''' - Your chance of miscasting destructive spells is significantly reduced, roughly equal to having 2 stacks of [[wizardry]].
	:Specifically, your [[Spell Success#Modifiers\|raw spell ~~success~~ rate]] is multiplied by x66.6%. Generally, your actual failure rates will be smaller than (previous_fail% * .666) at any practical failure rate. Note that this bonus is not considered wizardry, so having wizardry x3 is not the same as having the Vehumet bonus and wizardry x1. Instead, the Vehumet bonus and wizardry multiplicatively stack.		:Specifically, your [[Spell Success#Modifiers\|raw spell failure rate]] is multiplied by x66.6%. Generally, your actual failure rates will be smaller than (previous_fail% * .666) at any practical failure rate. Note that this bonus is not considered wizardry, so having wizardry x3 is not the same as having the Vehumet bonus and wizardry x1. Instead, the Vehumet bonus and wizardry multiplicatively stack.

	'''[[Piety\|Piety level ****]]''': "Battlemage"		'''[[Piety\|Piety level ****]]''': "Battlemage"

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Gifts

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	==Gifts==		==Gifts==
	'''[[Spell]]s.'''		'''[[Spell]]s.'''
	If you are above the ~~prespective iety~~ breakpoint and eligible for a gift, there is chance that Vehumet will offer you the knowledge of a '''Destructive spell'''. Vehumet will offer up to 15 spells:<ref>{{source ref\|0.32.1\|religion.cc\|1229}}</ref>		If you are above the respective piety breakpoint and eligible for a gift, there is chance that Vehumet will offer you the knowledge of a '''Destructive spell'''. Vehumet will offer up to 15 spells:<ref>{{source ref\|0.32.1\|religion.cc\|1229}}</ref>

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History

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	==History==		==History==
	*Prior to [[0.34]]:		Prior to [[0.34]], the first spell gift was given at 1 piety instead of on worship, and spell gifts only considered skill in elemental skills ([[Fire Magic]], [[Ice Magic]], [[Earth Magic]], and [[Air Magic]]). Also, Vehumet boosted the spell range of monsters due to a bug.<ref>https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/d5cd0e1a866c969c32fb65bd845d5f441ec64b9d</ref>
	*The first spell gift was given at 1 piety instead of on worship.
	**Spell gifts only considered skill in elemental skills ([[Fire Magic]], [[Ice Magic]], [[Earth Magic]], and [[Air Magic]]).
	**Vehumet boosted the spell range of monsters due to a bug.<ref>https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/d5cd0e1a866c969c32fb65bd845d5f441ec64b9d</ref>
	*Vehumet's spell gifts will be affected by the player's Alchemy and Conjurations skills too. Also, Vehumet will gift a level 1 spell on join.}}
	*Prior to [[0.32]], the chance to gain MP from kills was <code>(piety-30)/2</code>%, the second spell gift was level 1-2, and the range increase did not apply to [[Hailstorm]], [[Frozen Ramparts]], or [[Eringya's Noxious Bog]].		*Prior to [[0.32]], the chance to gain MP from kills was <code>(piety-30)/2</code>%, the second spell gift was level 1-2, and the range increase did not apply to [[Hailstorm]], [[Frozen Ramparts]], or [[Eringya's Noxious Bog]].
	*Prior to [[0.31]], Vehumet's spell failure reduction would only stack with 1 level of wizardry.		*Prior to [[0.31]], Vehumet's spell failure reduction would only stack with 1 level of wizardry.

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	===Tips & Tricks===		===Tips & Tricks===
	*The MP refund is fairly weak early on, but really shines with higher-level AOE spells that take out multiple enemies at once. Vehumet doesn't even require you to use spells; bashing them to death with a [[magical staff]] or firing a [[wand]] works just as well.		*The MP refund is fairly weak early on, but really shines with higher-level AOE spells that take out multiple enemies at once. Vehumet doesn't even require you to use spells; bashing them to death with a [[magical staff]] or firing a [[wand]] works just as well.
	*Since Vehumet will try to gift spells which you haven't yet seen ~~(picking up a book will mark all spells therein as "seen")~~, it ~~may~~ be worth buying ~~early~~ spell ~~books from magic schools~~ you ~~don't~~ want.		*Since Vehumet will try to gift spells which you haven't yet seen, it could theoretically be worth buying 'irrelevant' spells to increase the chance of getting a spell you want.
	*Vehumet is one of the few gods you can abandon while keeping permanent benefits granted via worship (spells learned via direct gift).		*Vehumet is one of the few gods you can abandon while keeping permanent benefits granted via worship (spells learned via direct gift).
	*Vehumet is a decent god for the extended game, thanks to the strong MP regen, but a god with useful active abilities may be preferred. For example, [[The Shining One]] provides active abilities and both HP and MP restoration when killing evil monsters (which make up most of the extended game monster lists).		*Vehumet is a decent god for the extended game, thanks to the strong MP regen, but a god with useful active abilities may be preferred. For example, [[The Shining One]] provides active abilities and both HP and MP restoration when killing evil monsters (which make up most of the extended game monster lists).

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Strategy

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	Vehumet offers a nearly guaranteed "engine", or way to kill things, up through [[Zot]]:5. However, without any active abilities, Vehumet is worse in emergency situations. In a way, you aren't worshipping Vehumet; think of your ''spells'' as the actual god.		Vehumet offers a nearly guaranteed "engine", or way to kill things, up through [[Zot]]:5. However, without any active abilities, Vehumet is worse in emergency situations. In a way, you aren't worshipping Vehumet; think of your ''spells'' as the actual god.

	The curated spell gifts, starting ~~from 1* of piety~~, ensure some method to kill those pesky [[orbs of fire]] (and just about everything else). Two free ranks of [[wizardry]] help get your powerful spells online faster. It makes level 9 spells (more) reasonable to cast in a 3-rune game. And the +1 range is helpful for certain spells. All this comes with zero [[Invocations]] investment. When combined with the wizardry, worshippers can afford to invest more into defensive skills, or even hybridize.		The curated spell gifts, starting on worship, ensure some method to kill those pesky [[orbs of fire]] (and just about everything else). Two free ranks of [[wizardry]] help get your powerful spells online faster. It makes level 9 spells (more) reasonable to cast in a 3-rune game. And the +1 range is helpful for certain spells. All this comes with zero [[Invocations]] investment. When combined with the wizardry, worshippers can afford to invest more into defensive skills, or even hybridize.

	Whether "having spells as a god" is a good thing is up to you, but it does come with a few downsides. Without active abilities, you have less ways to deal with a dangerous situation. In addition, Vehumet is one of the weaker gods for the early game. For spellcaster backgrounds, the first few spell gifts generally won't be much of an improvement compared to your own spells. Characters new to spellcasting have to take time to train up magic, which might not be all that powerful by the time you hit 1* or even 3*. Furthermore, there are ways to get an "engine" without taking up the god slot.		Whether "having spells as a god" is a good thing is up to you, but it does come with a few downsides. Without active abilities, you have less ways to deal with a dangerous situation. In addition, Vehumet is one of the weaker gods for the early game. For spellcaster backgrounds, the first few spell gifts generally won't be much of an improvement compared to your own spells. Characters new to spellcasting have to take time to train up magic, which might not be all that powerful by the time you hit 1* or even 3*. Furthermore, there are ways to get an "engine" without taking up the god slot.

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	{{~~version032~~}}		{{version034}}
	[[File:Vehumet altar.png]] "Let it end in hellfire!"''		[[File:Vehumet altar.png]] "Let it end in hellfire!"''

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	==Given Abilities==		==Given Abilities==
	'''[[Piety\|Piety level -]]''': "Sorcerer's Apprentice"		'''[[Piety\|Piety level -]]''': "Sorcerer's Apprentice"
	*~~No new abilities~~.		*Vehumet offers a spell gift immediately on worship (see below for details).

	'''[[Piety\|Piety level *]]''': "Scholar of Destruction"		'''[[Piety\|Piety level *]]''': "Scholar of Destruction"
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	==Gifts==		==Gifts==
	'''[[Spell]]s.'''		'''[[Spell]]s.'''
	If you are above the ~~first piety~~ breakpoint and eligible for a gift, there is chance that Vehumet will offer you the knowledge of a '''Destructive spell'''. Vehumet will offer up to 15 spells:<ref>{{source ref\|0.32.1\|religion.cc\|1229}}</ref>		If you are above the prespective iety breakpoint and eligible for a gift, there is chance that Vehumet will offer you the knowledge of a '''Destructive spell'''. Vehumet will offer up to 15 spells:<ref>{{source ref\|0.32.1\|religion.cc\|1229}}</ref>

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	The first gift will always happen ~~at <nowiki>*</nowiki> piety~~. Once a new gift is offered, you lose access to the previous gift. The last three spells, which are all level 8-9, are all offered at once, and will always be available so long as you continue to worship Vehumet. Vehumet will not gift spells that are already in your library and will attempt not to gift spells that had been offered previously.		The first gift will always happen on worship. Once a new gift is offered, you lose access to the previous gift. The last three spells, which are all level 8-9, are all offered at once, and will always be available so long as you continue to worship Vehumet. Vehumet will not gift spells that are already in your library and will attempt not to gift spells that had been offered previously.

	Gifts will tend to correlate with your ~~trained elemental~~ skills~~. Investing more into specific elemental skills (Fire, Ice, Earth, Air) increases the chance of a~~ spell ~~of said skill. Each school starts at 100 "weight"~~, and ~~every~~ skill level adds 10 to it; the relative likelihood of a specific element is (their weight / total weight).<ref>{{source ref\|0.32.1\|religion.cc\|1284}}</ref> For example, if you have 10 skill in Fire Magic and 0 in other schools, Fire Magic will be twice as likely, and the others are 66% as likely.		Gifts will tend to correlate with your skills; all spell schools are considered, and multi-school spells are weighted on their average skill level.

	===Gift Breakpoints===		===Gift Breakpoints===
	Vehumet gives spells at the following points, assuming you have gifts left:<ref>{{source ref\|0.32.1\|religion.cc\|1551}}</ref>		Vehumet gives spells at the following points, assuming you have gifts left:<ref>{{source ref\|0.32.1\|religion.cc\|1551}}</ref>

	Gift #1: Always gift ~~at 30 (1) piety~~		*Gift #1: Always gift immediately.
	*Gifts #2-5: Always gift by 53, 71, 89, 107 piety, respectively. These may be given a little earlier than this.		*Gifts #2-5: Always gift by 53, 71, 89, 107 piety, respectively. These may be given a little earlier than this.
	Gifts #6-15: At ≥ 120 (5) piety, uses the [[gift timeout]] system, for timeout = <code>28 + (2d30)/2</code>.<ref>{{source ref\|0.32.1\|religion.cc\|1587}}</ref> When timeout = 0, there's a 5% chance to get a gift whenever you gain piety.		Gifts #6-15: At ≥ 120 (5) piety, uses the [[gift timeout]] system, for timeout = <code>28 + (2d30)/2</code>.<ref>{{source ref\|0.32.1\|religion.cc\|1587}}</ref> When timeout = 0, there's a 5% chance to get a gift whenever you gain piety.
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	==History==		==History==
	~~{{CBA\|~~0.34\|Vehumet~~'s spell range increase will stop increasing~~ spell range of monsters.<ref>https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/d5cd0e1a866c969c32fb65bd845d5f441ec64b9d</ref>		*Prior to [[0.34]]:
			*The first spell gift was given at 1 piety instead of on worship.
			**Spell gifts only considered skill in elemental skills ([[Fire Magic]], [[Ice Magic]], [[Earth Magic]], and [[Air Magic]]).
			**Vehumet boosted the spell range of monsters due to a bug.<ref>https://github.com/crawl/crawl/commit/d5cd0e1a866c969c32fb65bd845d5f441ec64b9d</ref>
	*Vehumet's spell gifts will be affected by the player's Alchemy and Conjurations skills too. Also, Vehumet will gift a level 1 spell on join.}}		*Vehumet's spell gifts will be affected by the player's Alchemy and Conjurations skills too. Also, Vehumet will gift a level 1 spell on join.}}
	*Prior to [[0.32]], the chance to gain MP from kills was <code>(piety-30)/2</code>%, the second spell gift was level 1-2, and the range increase did not apply to [[Hailstorm]], [[Frozen Ramparts]], or [[Eringya's Noxious Bog]].		*Prior to [[0.32]], the chance to gain MP from kills was <code>(piety-30)/2</code>%, the second spell gift was level 1-2, and the range increase did not apply to [[Hailstorm]], [[Frozen Ramparts]], or [[Eringya's Noxious Bog]].