Stone - Revision history

Hordes at 15:25, 15 July 2026

2026-07-15T15:25:25Z

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	==History==		==History==
	*Prior to [[0.29]], stones could be used for [[hunting sling]]s, [[fustibali]], and [[Sandblast]]. They were more common, and only [[mulch]]ed 12.5% of the time.		*Prior to [[0.29]], stones could be used for [[hunting sling]]s, [[fustibali]], and [[Sandblast]]. They were significantly more common, and only [[mulch]]ed 12.5% of the time.
	*Prior to [[0.20]], Sandblast did not require stones to function.		*Prior to [[0.20]], Sandblast did not require stones to function.
	*Prior to [[0.17]], stones were particularly useful as an anti-[[jelly]] weapon, as jellies would eat most other projectiles and heal by doing so.		*Prior to [[0.17]], stones were particularly useful as an anti-[[jelly]] weapon, as jellies would eat most other projectiles and heal by doing so.

imported>Slobodan: /* Strategy */

2023-12-20T17:38:20Z

Strategy

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imported>Slobodan: /* Strategy */

2023-12-20T17:38:20Z

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imported>Slobodan: /* Strategy */

2023-12-20T17:38:20Z

Strategy

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	** This can be used to split up packs. Many monsters will [[shout]] after hearing a noise, waking up the whole pack. However, when a monster shouts, the [[noise]] is projected on ''their'' tile, not yours. Because some monsters only hear that shout, they won't know your actual location. Some monsters will wander towards the shout (then a random direction), others towards the direction of the stone. Therefore, some monsters will be split from the pack. This doesn't work on [[:Category:Herd flag\|herd]] animals like [[yak]]s.		** This can be used to split up packs. Many monsters will [[shout]] after hearing a noise, waking up the whole pack. However, when a monster shouts, the [[noise]] is projected on ''their'' tile, not yours. Because some monsters only hear that shout, they won't know your actual location. Some monsters will wander towards the shout (then a random direction), others towards the direction of the stone. Therefore, some monsters will be split from the pack. This doesn't work on [[:Category:Herd flag\|herd]] animals like [[yak]]s.
	* If you hit an enemy, it will always notice you. If you want a monster to notice you, it's better to throw a stone than to wait around or shout yourself.		* If you hit an enemy, it will always notice you. If you want a monster to notice you, it's better to throw a stone than to wait around or shout yourself.
			* Even stones can deal very respectable damage in the early game if you happen to find some slaying bonuses.

	You can largely disregard stones the moment you find a better ranged option.		You can largely disregard stones the moment you find a better ranged option.

Hordes at 14:21, 6 November 2023

2023-11-06T14:21:36Z

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	-Emily Dickinson, "How happy is the little Stone". ca. 1865.}}		-Emily Dickinson, "How happy is the little Stone". ca. 1865.}}

	'''Stones''' are a somewhat common form of ammo which can [[throwing\|thrown]] by hand for minimal damage. While unimpressive, they let early ~~character~~ deal some extra damage at a distance. Stones get half the damage bonus from [[Throwing]] skill that other weapons do.		'''Stones''' are a somewhat common form of ammo which can [[throwing\|thrown]] by hand for minimal damage. While unimpressive, they let early characters deal some extra damage at a distance. Stones get half the damage bonus from [[Throwing]] skill that other weapons do.

	Stones are always [[mulch]]ed (destroyed) after being thrown.		Stones are always [[mulch]]ed (destroyed) after being thrown.

Hordes: stones' accuracy/speed bonuses are the same

2023-11-06T03:38:07Z

stones' accuracy/speed bonuses are the same

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	-Emily Dickinson, "How happy is the little Stone". ca. 1865.}}		-Emily Dickinson, "How happy is the little Stone". ca. 1865.}}

	'''Stones''' are a somewhat common form of ammo which can [[throwing\|thrown]] by hand for minimal damage. While unimpressive, they let early character deal some extra damage at a distance. Stones get half the bonus from [[Throwing]] skill that other weapons do.		'''Stones''' are a somewhat common form of ammo which can [[throwing\|thrown]] by hand for minimal damage. While unimpressive, they let early character deal some extra damage at a distance. Stones get half the damage bonus from [[Throwing]] skill that other weapons do.

	Stones are always [[mulch]]ed (destroyed) after being thrown.		Stones are always [[mulch]]ed (destroyed) after being thrown.

Hordes: why stones feel/felt weak at high skill

2023-10-08T19:04:01Z

why stones feel/felt weak at high skill

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	\|damage = 2		\|damage = 2
	\|basedelay = 11 (110%)		\|basedelay = 11 (110%)
	\|mindelay = 7 at [[Throwing]] skill 8		\|mindelay = 7 (at [[Throwing]] skill 8)
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	{{flavour\|A small chunk of dense but otherwise unremarkable natural mineral. It can be thrown to cause minor damage.		{{flavour\|A small chunk of dense but otherwise unremarkable natural mineral. It can be thrown to cause minor damage.
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	-Emily Dickinson, "How happy is the little Stone". ca. 1865.}}		-Emily Dickinson, "How happy is the little Stone". ca. 1865.}}

	'''Stones''' are a somewhat common form of ammo which can [[throwing\|thrown]] by hand for minimal damage. While unimpressive, they ~~are~~ the ~~fastest throwing weapon available~~.		'''Stones''' are a somewhat common form of ammo which can [[throwing\|thrown]] by hand for minimal damage. While unimpressive, they let early character deal some extra damage at a distance. Stones get half the bonus from [[Throwing]] skill that other weapons do.

	Stones are always [[mulch]]ed (destroyed) after being thrown.		Stones are always [[mulch]]ed (destroyed) after being thrown.

	==Strategy==		==Strategy==
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	*Prior to [[0.29]], stones could be used for [[hunting sling]]s, [[fustibali]], and [[Sandblast]]. They were more common, and only [[mulch]]ed 12.5% of the time.		*Prior to [[0.29]], stones could be used for [[hunting sling]]s, [[fustibali]], and [[Sandblast]]. They were more common, and only [[mulch]]ed 12.5% of the time.
	*Prior to [[0.20]], Sandblast did not require stones to function.		*Prior to [[0.20]], Sandblast did not require stones to function.
	*Prior to [[0.17]], stones were ~~particulalry~~ useful as an anti-jelly weapon, as jellies would eat most other projectiles and heal by doing so.		*Prior to [[0.17]], stones were particularly useful as an anti-[[jelly]] weapon, as jellies would eat most other projectiles and heal by doing so.
	*Prior to [[0.11]], [[mulch]]ing a [[large rock]] would create a stack of stones.		*Prior to [[0.11]], [[mulch]]ing a [[large rock]] would create a stack of stones.

	{{weapons}}		{{weapons}}
	[[Category:Slings]][[Category:Throwing]]		[[Category:Slings]][[Category:Throwing]]

Hordes: /* Strategy */

2023-07-21T19:58:12Z

Strategy

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	* If you can't attack from range, you might as well throw a stone. Stones let you deal some extra damage against [[adder]]s and other melee enemies.		* If you can't attack from range, you might as well throw a stone. Stones let you deal some extra damage against [[adder]]s and other melee enemies.
	* Stones create a soft [[noise]] where they land. If you throw a stone at the edge of [[line of sight]], you can quietly attract enemies that were just out of sight.		* Stones create a soft [[noise]] where they land. If you throw a stone at the edge of [[line of sight]], you can quietly attract enemies that were just out of sight.
	** This can be used to split up packs. Many monsters will [[shout]] after hearing a noise, waking up the whole pack. However, when a monster shouts, the [[noise]] is projected on ''their'' tile, not yours. Because some monsters only hear that shout, they won't know your actual location. Some monsters will wander in a random direction, others towards the direction of a stone. Therefore, some monsters will be split from the pack. This doesn't work on [[:Category:Herd flag\|herd]] animals like [[yak]]s.		** This can be used to split up packs. Many monsters will [[shout]] after hearing a noise, waking up the whole pack. However, when a monster shouts, the [[noise]] is projected on ''their'' tile, not yours. Because some monsters only hear that shout, they won't know your actual location. Some monsters will wander towards the shout (then a random direction), others towards the direction of the stone. Therefore, some monsters will be split from the pack. This doesn't work on [[:Category:Herd flag\|herd]] animals like [[yak]]s.
	* If you hit an enemy, it will always notice you. If you want a monster to notice you, it's better to throw a stone than to wait around.		* If you hit an enemy, it will always notice you. If you want a monster to notice you, it's better to throw a stone than to wait around or shout yourself.

	You can largely disregard stones the moment you find a better ranged option.		You can largely disregard stones the moment you find a better ranged option.

imported>Ge0ff: /* Strategy */ orc warlord's base damage is 27, stones have 2 base damage, so it should be 29 damage max

2023-07-12T14:45:39Z

Strategy: orc warlord's base damage is 27, stones have 2 base damage, so it should be 29 damage max

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	You can largely disregard stones the moment you find a better ranged option.		You can largely disregard stones the moment you find a better ranged option.

	Note that stones used by monsters will use the monster's base damage. For example, an [[orc warlord]] will deal up to 34 damage with a stone.		Note that stones used by monsters will use the monster's base damage. For example, an [[orc warlord]] will deal up to 29 damage with a stone.

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