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	*[[Spectral]] offers a stronger (+70%) damage boost, but the spectral weapon needs an empty tile to spawn, and it can cause the wielder to take extra damage from AOE attacks.		*[[Spectral]] offers a stronger (+70%) damage boost, but the spectral weapon needs an empty tile to spawn, and it can cause the wielder to take extra damage from AOE attacks.

	Also, ~~since~~ low base damage weapons like [[dagger]]s and [[short sword]]s ~~are weak~~, 'flat' brands (e.g. [[venom]], [[electrocution]]) can end up being stronger, particularly in the early-game.		Also, on low base damage weapons like [[dagger]]s and [[short sword]]s, 'flat' brands (e.g. [[venom]], [[electrocution]]) can end up being stronger, particularly in the early-game.

	Unlike every other weapon brand in the game, speed improves [[auxiliary attack]]s, since aux attacks are performed faster.		Unlike every other weapon brand in the game, speed improves [[auxiliary attack]]s, since aux attacks are performed faster.

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	The '''speed''' [[brand]] does the following:		The '''speed''' [[brand]] does the following:
	*Reduces [[attack delay\|time to attack]] by -33.3% (for an extra +50% damage/turn).		*Reduces [[attack delay\|time to attack]] by -33.3% (for an extra +50% damage/turn).
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	**Non-integer [[aut]] delays are rounded in a weighted manner, after speed is accounted for. If you have a 0.7 [[decaAut]] delay before speed, you'd have an average of 0.467 delay. This equates to a 67% chance to attack at 0.5 decaAut, and a 33% chance to attack at 0.4 decaAut.		**Non-integer [[aut]] delays are rounded in a weighted manner, after speed is accounted for. If you have a 0.7 [[decaAut]] delay before speed, you'd have an average of 0.467 delay. This equates to a 67% chance to attack at 0.5 decaAut, and a 33% chance to attack at 0.4 decaAut.

	Note that speed is ''not'' particularly worse against high [[AC]] enemies ~~- speed~~ increases your post-AC damage/turn by +50% against any enemy. Brands like [[flaming]] and [[freezing]] also increase post-AC damage. For example, if you dealt 10 damage, and enemy AC would reduce it by 5:		===AC Note===
			Note that speed is ''not'' particularly worse against high [[AC]] or [[EV]] enemies. Speed increases your post-AC damage/turn by +50% against any enemy. Brands like [[flaming]] and [[freezing]] also increase post-AC damage and are equally affected by AC. For example, if you dealt 10 damage, and enemy AC would reduce it by 5:
	Speed: <code>(10 - 5) damage 1 multiplier * 1.5 attacks</code> = 7.5 damage/turn		Speed: <code>(10 - 5) damage 1 multiplier * 1.5 attacks</code> = 7.5 damage/turn
	Flaming: <code>(10 - 5) damage 1.25 multiplier * 1 attack</code> = 6.25 damage per turn		Flaming: <code>(10 - 5) damage 1.25 multiplier * 1 attack</code> = 6.25 damage per turn

	[[Heavy]] is particularly good against AC, and 'flat damage' brands like [[electrocution]] ignore AC entirely. This is because these brands are good against AC; not that speed is bad against high AC enemies.		[[Heavy]] is particularly good against AC, and 'flat damage' brands like [[electrocution]] ignore AC entirely. This is because these brands are good against AC; not that speed is bad against high AC enemies.

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	*Reduces [[attack delay\|time to attack]] by -33.3% (for an extra +50% damage/turn).		*Reduces [[attack delay\|time to attack]] by -33.3% (for an extra +50% damage/turn).
	**The bonus to attack speed happens after skill, but before [[shield]] or [[armour encumbrance]]. Therefore, encumbrance has a somewhat greater impact on speed weapons: going from 0.5 -> 0.6 delay is a bigger difference than 0.75 -> 0.85 delay.		**The bonus to attack speed happens after skill, but before [[shield]] or [[armour encumbrance]]. Therefore, encumbrance has a somewhat greater impact on speed weapons: going from 0.5 -> 0.6 delay is a bigger difference than 0.75 -> 0.85 delay.
	**Non-integer [[aut]] delays are rounded in a weighted manner, after speed is accounted for. If you have a 0.7 [[decaAut]] delay before speed, you'd have an average of 0.467 delay. This equates to a 67% chance ~~(per turn)~~ to attack at 0.5 decaAut, and a 33% chance to attack at 0.4 decaAut.		**Non-integer [[aut]] delays are rounded in a weighted manner, after speed is accounted for. If you have a 0.7 [[decaAut]] delay before speed, you'd have an average of 0.467 delay. This equates to a 67% chance to attack at 0.5 decaAut, and a 33% chance to attack at 0.4 decaAut.

	Note that speed is ''not'' particularly worse against high [[AC]] enemies - speed increases your post-AC damage/turn by +50% against any enemy. Brands like [[flaming]] and [[freezing]] also increase post-AC damage. For example, if you dealt 10 damage, ~~any~~ enemy AC ~~reduces~~ it by 5:		Note that speed is ''not'' particularly worse against high [[AC]] enemies - speed increases your post-AC damage/turn by +50% against any enemy. Brands like [[flaming]] and [[freezing]] also increase post-AC damage. For example, if you dealt 10 damage, and enemy AC would reduce it by 5:
	Speed: <code>(10 - 5) damage 1 multiplier * 1.5 attacks</code> = 7.5 damage/turn		Speed: <code>(10 - 5) damage 1 multiplier * 1.5 attacks</code> = 7.5 damage/turn
	Flaming: <code>(10 - 5) damage 1.25 multiplier * 1 attack</code> = 6.25 damage per turn		Flaming: <code>(10 - 5) damage 1.25 multiplier * 1 attack</code> = 6.25 damage per turn

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	{{flavour\|Attacks with this weapon are significantly faster.}}		{{flavour\|Attacks with this weapon are significantly faster.}}

	The '''speed''' [[brand]] does the following:		The '''speed''' [[brand]] does the following:
	*Reduces [[attack delay\|time to attack]] by -33%~~, which equates to~~ an extra +50% damage/turn.		*Reduces [[attack delay\|time to attack]] by -33.3% (for an extra +50% damage/turn).
	**The bonus to attack speed happens after skill, but before [[shield]] or [[armour encumbrance]]. Therefore, encumbrance has a somewhat greater impact on speed weapons~~. Adding +~~0.~~1 to a~~ 0.5 delay ~~matters more~~ than 0.75 delay.		**The bonus to attack speed happens after skill, but before [[shield]] or [[armour encumbrance]]. Therefore, encumbrance has a somewhat greater impact on speed weapons: going from 0.5 -> 0.6 delay is a bigger difference than 0.75 -> 0.85 delay.
	**~~As usual, non~~-integer [[aut]] delays are rounded in a weighted manner, after speed is accounted for. ~~E.g. if~~ you have a 0.7 [[decaAut]] delay, you'd have an average 0.467 delay ~~after speed~~. This equates to a 67% chance (per turn) to attack at 0.5 decaAut, and a 33% chance to attack at 0.4 decaAut.		**Non-integer [[aut]] delays are rounded in a weighted manner, after speed is accounted for. If you have a 0.7 [[decaAut]] delay before speed, you'd have an average of 0.467 delay. This equates to a 67% chance (per turn) to attack at 0.5 decaAut, and a 33% chance to attack at 0.4 decaAut.

	Note that speed is ''not'' particularly worse against high [[AC]] enemies - speed increases your post-AC damage/turn by +50% against any enemy. Brands like [[flaming]] and [[freezing]] also increase post-AC damage. For example, if you dealt 10 damage, any enemy AC reduces it by 5:		Note that speed is ''not'' particularly worse against high [[AC]] enemies - speed increases your post-AC damage/turn by +50% against any enemy. Brands like [[flaming]] and [[freezing]] also increase post-AC damage. For example, if you dealt 10 damage, any enemy AC reduces it by 5:

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	Speed: <code>(10 - 5) damage 1 multiplier * 1.5 attacks</code> = 7.5 damage/turn		Speed: <code>(10 - 5) damage 1 multiplier * 1.5 attacks</code> = 7.5 damage/turn
	Flaming: <code>(10 - 5) damage 1.25 multiplier * 1 attack</code> = 6.25 damage per turn		Flaming: <code>(10 - 5) damage 1.25 multiplier * 1 attack</code> = 6.25 damage per turn
	[[Heavy]] is particularly good against AC, and 'flat damage' brands like [[electrocution]] ignore AC entirely. This is because these brands are good against AC; not that speed is bad against AC.		[[Heavy]] is particularly good against AC, and 'flat damage' brands like [[electrocution]] ignore AC entirely. This is because these brands are good against AC; not that speed is bad against high AC enemies.

	==Sources==		==Sources==
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	Speed is one of the best 'percentage' brands in the game - it's irresistible and provides a large, consistent increase to damage output independent of enemy AC. It's objectively better than [[flaming]] or [[freezing]], which are already good enough for a 3-rune game. A [[hand axe]] of speed isn't an endgame weapon, but [[Arga]] is one of the strongest one-handed weapons almost purely because of this brand.		Speed is one of the best 'percentage' brands in the game - it's irresistible and provides a large, consistent increase to damage output independent of enemy AC. It's objectively better than [[flaming]] or [[freezing]], which are already good enough for a 3-rune game. A [[hand axe]] of speed isn't an endgame weapon, but [[Arga]] is one of the strongest one-handed weapons almost purely because of this brand.
	*[[Holy wrath]] is usually better for [[extended]], but does nothing if the target isn't undead/demonic.		*[[Holy wrath]] is usually better for [[extended]], but does nothing if the target isn't undead/demonic.
	*[[Spectral]] offers a stronger (+70%) damage boost, but the spectral weapon needs to ~~be positioned correctly~~, and it can cause you to take extra damage from AOE attacks.		*[[Spectral]] offers a stronger (+70%) damage boost, but the spectral weapon needs an empty tile to spawn, and it can cause you to take extra damage from AOE attacks.

	Also, since weak weapons like [[dagger]]s and [[short sword]]s have such low base damage, 'flat' brands (e.g. [[venom]], [[electrocution]]) can end up being stronger in the early-game.		Also, since weak weapons like [[dagger]]s and [[short sword]]s have such low base damage, 'flat' brands (e.g. [[venom]], [[electrocution]]) can end up being stronger in the early-game.

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	The '''speed''' [[brand]] does the following:		The '''speed''' [[brand]] does the following:
	*Reduces [[attack delay\|time to attack]] by -33%, which equates to an extra +50% damage/turn.		*Reduces [[attack delay\|time to attack]] by -33%, which equates to an extra +50% damage/turn.
	:The bonus to attack speed happens after skill, but before [[shield]] or [[armour encumbrance]]. Therefore, encumbrance has a somewhat greater impact on speed weapons. ~~An extra~~ +0.1 delay matters ~~50%~~ more ~~with~~ 0.5 delay ~~than~~ 0.75 delay.		**The bonus to attack speed happens after skill, but before [[shield]] or [[armour encumbrance]]. Therefore, encumbrance has a somewhat greater impact on speed weapons. Adding +0.1 to a 0.5 delay matters more than 0.75 delay.
			**As usual, non-integer [[aut]] delays are rounded in a weighted manner, after speed is accounted for. E.g. if you have a 0.7 [[decaAut]] delay, you'd have an average 0.467 delay after speed. This equates to a 67% chance (per turn) to attack at 0.5 decaAut, and a 33% chance to attack at 0.4 decaAut.

	~~==Useful Info==~~		Note that speed is ''not'' particularly worse against high [[AC]] enemies - speed increases your post-AC damage/turn by +50% against any enemy. Brands like [[flaming]] and [[freezing]] also increase post-AC damage. For example, if you dealt 10 damage, any enemy AC reduces it by 5:
	*Speed is ''not'' particularly worse against [[AC]]~~. Speed~~ increases your post-AC damage by +50% against ~~all enemies~~. ~~For reference, brands~~ like [[flaming]] or [[freezing]] ~~multiply your~~ post-AC damage ~~by average +25%~~. If you dealt 10 damage, ~~and~~ enemy AC reduces it by 5:		Speed: <code>(10 - 5) damage 1 multiplier * 1.5 attacks</code> = 7.5 damage/turn
	*Speed: (10 - 5) damage 3/~~2 attacks~~ = 7.5 damage/turn		Flaming: <code>(10 - 5) damage 1.25 multiplier * 1 attack</code> = 6.25 damage per turn
	*Flaming: (10 - 5) damage 1.25 multiplier = 6.25 damage/turn		[[Heavy]] is particularly good against AC, and 'flat damage' brands like [[electrocution]] ignore AC entirely. This is because these brands are good against AC; not that speed is bad against AC.
	:[[Heavy]] is ~~especially~~ good against AC, and 'flat' brands like [[electrocution]] ignore AC ~~completely~~. ~~These~~ are ~~benefits of the aforementioned brands, and~~ not ~~a weakness of~~ speed ~~itself.~~
	*As usual, non-integer [[aut]] delays are rounded in a weighted manner. For example, if a weapon had 0.7 [[decaAut]] delay before speed, you'd have a 0.467 delay after speed. This equates to a 67% chance (per turn) to attack at 0.5 decaAut, and a 33% chance to attack at 0.4 decaAut.
	*Unlike every other weapon brand in the game, speed improves [[auxiliary attack]]s, since aux attacks are performed faster.

	==Sources==		==Sources==
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	Also, since weak weapons like [[dagger]]s and [[short sword]]s have such low base damage, 'flat' brands (e.g. [[venom]], [[electrocution]]) can end up being stronger in the early-game.		Also, since weak weapons like [[dagger]]s and [[short sword]]s have such low base damage, 'flat' brands (e.g. [[venom]], [[electrocution]]) can end up being stronger in the early-game.

			Unlike every other weapon brand in the game, speed improves [[auxiliary attack]]s, since aux attacks are performed faster.

	==History==		==History==

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	*Reduces [[attack delay\|time to attack]] by -33.3% (for an extra +50% damage/turn).		*Reduces [[attack delay\|time to attack]] by -33.3% (for an extra +50% damage/turn).
	**The bonus to attack speed happens after skill, but before [[shield]] or [[armour encumbrance]]. Therefore, encumbrance has a somewhat greater impact on speed weapons: going from 0.5 -> 0.6 delay is a bigger difference than 0.75 -> 0.85 delay.		**The bonus to attack speed happens after skill, but before [[shield]] or [[armour encumbrance]]. Therefore, encumbrance has a somewhat greater impact on speed weapons: going from 0.5 -> 0.6 delay is a bigger difference than 0.75 -> 0.85 delay.
	**Non-integer [[aut]] delays are rounded in a weighted manner, after speed is accounted for. If ~~you have a~~ 0.7 [[decaAut]] delay before speed, ~~you'd have an~~ average of 0.467 ~~delay~~. This equates to a 67% chance to attack at 0.5 decaAut, and a 33% chance to attack at 0.4 decaAut.		**Non-integer [[aut]] delays are rounded in a weighted manner, after speed is accounted for. If attacking at 0.7 [[decaAut]] delay before speed, the average delay after the brand is 0.467. This equates to a 67% chance to attack at 0.5 decaAut, and a 33% chance to attack at 0.4 decaAut.

	===AC Note===		===AC Note===
	Note that speed is ''not'' particularly worse against high [[AC]] or [[EV]] enemies. Speed increases ~~your~~ post-AC damage/turn by +50% against any enemy. Brands like [[flaming]] and [[freezing]] also increase post-AC damage and are equally affected by AC. For example, if ~~you dealt~~ 10 damage, and enemy AC would reduce it by 5:		Note that speed is ''not'' particularly worse against high [[AC]] or [[EV]] enemies. Speed increases the weapon's post-AC damage/turn by +50% against any enemy. Brands like [[flaming]] and [[freezing]] also increase post-AC damage and are equally affected by AC. For example, if an attack would deal 10 damage, and enemy AC would reduce it by 5:
	Speed: <code>(10 - 5) damage 1 multiplier * 1.5 attacks</code> = 7.5 damage/turn		Speed: <code>(10 - 5) damage 1 multiplier * 1.5 attacks</code> = 7.5 damage/turn
	Flaming: <code>(10 - 5) damage 1.25 multiplier * 1 attack</code> = 6.25 damage per turn		Flaming: <code>(10 - 5) damage 1.25 multiplier * 1 attack</code> = 6.25 damage per turn

	[[Heavy]] is particularly good against AC, and 'flat damage' brands like [[electrocution]] ignore AC entirely. This is because these brands are good against AC; not that speed is bad against high AC enemies.		[[Heavy]] is particularly good against AC, and 'flat damage' brands like [[electrocution]] ignore AC entirely. This is because these brands are good against AC, not that speed is bad against high AC enemies.

	==Sources==		==Sources==
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	Speed is one of the best 'percentage' brands in the game - it's irresistible and provides a large, consistent increase to damage output independent of enemy AC. It's objectively better than [[flaming]] or [[freezing]], which are already good enough for a 3-rune game. A [[hand axe]] of speed isn't an endgame weapon, but [[Arga]] is one of the strongest one-handed weapons almost purely because of this brand.		Speed is one of the best 'percentage' brands in the game - it's irresistible and provides a large, consistent increase to damage output independent of enemy AC. It's objectively better than [[flaming]] or [[freezing]], which are already good enough for a 3-rune game. A [[hand axe]] of speed isn't an endgame weapon, but [[Arga]] is one of the strongest one-handed weapons almost purely because of this brand.
	*[[Holy wrath]] is usually better for [[extended]], but does nothing if the target isn't undead/demonic.		*[[Holy wrath]] is usually better for [[extended]], but does nothing if the target isn't undead/demonic.
	*[[Spectral]] offers a stronger (+70%) damage boost, but the spectral weapon needs an empty tile to spawn, and it can cause ~~you~~ to take extra damage from AOE attacks.		*[[Spectral]] offers a stronger (+70%) damage boost, but the spectral weapon needs an empty tile to spawn, and it can cause the wielder to take extra damage from AOE attacks.

	Also, since ~~weak~~ weapons like [[dagger]]s and [[short sword]]s ~~have such low base damage~~, 'flat' brands (e.g. [[venom]], [[electrocution]]) can end up being stronger in the early-game.		Also, since low base damage weapons like [[dagger]]s and [[short sword]]s are weak, 'flat' brands (e.g. [[venom]], [[electrocution]]) can end up being stronger, particularly in the early-game.

	Unlike every other weapon brand in the game, speed improves [[auxiliary attack]]s, since aux attacks are performed faster.		Unlike every other weapon brand in the game, speed improves [[auxiliary attack]]s, since aux attacks are performed faster.