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	====Casters of invisibility====		====Casters of invisibility====
	Some spellcasting monsters can make themselves invisible:		Some spellcasting monsters can make themselves invisible:
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	*{{monsterlink\|Orc wizard}}		*{{monsterlink\|Orc wizard}}
	*{{LightCyan\|I}} [[File:Sky beast.png]] '''[[Sky beast]]''' (by inherent ability, not a spell)		*{{LightCyan\|I}} [[File:Sky beast.png]] '''[[Sky beast]]''' (by inherent ability, not a spell)
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	*{{monsterlink\|The Enchantress}}		*{{monsterlink\|The Enchantress}}
	*{{monsterlink\|Pandemonium lord}} (7.5% chance)		*{{monsterlink\|Pandemonium lord}} (7.5% chance)
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	This effect has a finite duration, but the monster can always recast it after it has run out.		This effect has a finite duration, but the monster can always recast it after it has run out.

imported>Ge0ff: update sources

2023-10-14T19:57:40Z

update sources

imported>Ge0ff: commit 18619c1dc

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commit 18619c1dc

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	==History==		==History==
			*Prior to [[0.30]], [[chaos]] attacks could give invisibility.
	*Prior to [[0.28]], [[Invisibility]] was a spell available to players, which was one of the main ways of getting this status. The status would also give [[magic contamination]] over time, and many more late-game monsters had access to SInv.		*Prior to [[0.28]], [[Invisibility]] was a spell available to players, which was one of the main ways of getting this status. The status would also give [[magic contamination]] over time, and many more late-game monsters had access to SInv.
	*Prior to [[0.27]], the [[wand of random effects]] could turn you or monsters invisible. Replaced with a [[piece from Xom's chessboard]], which only targets monsters.		*Prior to [[0.27]], the [[wand of random effects]] could turn you or monsters invisible. Replaced with a [[piece from Xom's chessboard]], which only targets monsters.

Hordes: note on monster's memory. also update the version; i dont think anything actually changed between 0.28 -> 0.30

2023-10-13T09:13:41Z

note on monster's memory. also update the version; i dont think anything actually changed between 0.28 -> 0.30

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	'''Invisible''' is a [[status effect]] which renders the target unseen except through [[see invisible]]. It functions differently depending on whether it affects a player or a monster.		'''Invisible''' is a [[status effect]] which renders the target unseen except through [[see invisible]]. It functions differently depending on whether it affects a player or a monster.

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	As you progress, and as more monsters gain SInv), invisibility shifts from "a buff that can kill most things outright" to "a defense against common/weak monsters". Being invisible won't help one bit against an [[orb of fire]], but it'll make nearby draconians less likely to hit you.		As you progress, and as more monsters gain SInv), invisibility shifts from "a buff that can kill most things outright" to "a defense against common/weak monsters". Being invisible won't help one bit against an [[orb of fire]], but it'll make nearby draconians less likely to hit you.

	~~An alternative is~~ the [[Dazzling Flash]] ~~spell~~. ~~This level 3 spell has a chance to~~ [[blind]]s opponents, ~~duplicating many of the advantages of invisibility without some of its limitations and affecting many opponents that possess~~ see invisible. However, ~~Dazzling Flash~~ can fail.		===Tips & Tricks===
			*Note that monsters will remember your old position. Therefore, you should move a few tiles after becoming invisible. That way, monsters are much less likely to target the right tile.
			*[[Dazzling Flash]] or a [[wand of light]] (if it has generated) replicate invisibility. These effects [[blind]] opponents; a blind opponent treats you as invisible, even if they have see invisible. However, the former can fail, and the latter has a limited number of uses.

	==Monster Version==		==Monster Version==

imported>Ge0ff at 19:07, 12 September 2023

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	**Shadow Form requires significant [[Invocations]] training to be reliable, carries a significant MP and [[piety]] cost, drains you when activated, further drains you when you take damage, all the while reducing your damage output and spellpower.		**Shadow Form requires significant [[Invocations]] training to be reliable, carries a significant MP and [[piety]] cost, drains you when activated, further drains you when you take damage, all the while reducing your damage output and spellpower.

	As you progress, and as more monsters gain ~~SIn~~), invisibility shifts from "a buff that can kill most things outright" to "a defense against common/weak monsters". Being invisible won't help one bit against an [[orb of fire]], but it'll make nearby draconians less likely to hit you.		As you progress, and as more monsters gain SInv), invisibility shifts from "a buff that can kill most things outright" to "a defense against common/weak monsters". Being invisible won't help one bit against an [[orb of fire]], but it'll make nearby draconians less likely to hit you.

	An alternative is the [[Dazzling Flash]] spell. This level 3 spell has a chance to [[blind]]s opponents, duplicating many of the advantages of invisibility without some of its limitations and affecting many opponents that possess see invisible. However, Dazzling Flash can fail.		An alternative is the [[Dazzling Flash]] spell. This level 3 spell has a chance to [[blind]]s opponents, duplicating many of the advantages of invisibility without some of its limitations and affecting many opponents that possess see invisible. However, Dazzling Flash can fail.

Hordes at 03:19, 11 September 2023

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	** [[Ashenzari]] penance improves the chance of guessing by 50%.		** [[Ashenzari]] penance improves the chance of guessing by 50%.

	Invisibility has no effect if ~~you~~ are in [[water]] (and not [[flying]] above it)<ref>{{source ref\|0.28.0\|player.cc\|6996}}</ref> ~~or if~~ you are [[backlit]] (inflicted by [[Corona]] or [[Sticky Flame]], inside a [[halo]], or if [[magical contamination]] is above 5000).		Invisibility has no effect if:
			*You are in [[water]] and not [[flying]] above it.<ref>{{source ref\|0.28.0\|player.cc\|6996}}</ref>
			*If you are [[backlit]] (inflicted by [[Corona]], hit by [[Sticky Flame]], inside a [[halo]], or if [[magical contamination]] is above 5000).

	===Sources===		===Sources===
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	**Shadow Form requires significant [[Invocations]] training to be reliable, carries a significant MP and [[piety]] cost, drains you when activated, further drains you when you take damage, all the while reducing your damage output and spellpower.		**Shadow Form requires significant [[Invocations]] training to be reliable, carries a significant MP and [[piety]] cost, drains you when activated, further drains you when you take damage, all the while reducing your damage output and spellpower.

	As an alternative~~, consider learning~~ the [[Dazzling Flash]] spell. This level 3 spell [[blind]]s opponents, duplicating many of the advantages of invisibility without some of its limitations and affecting many opponents that possess see invisible. Dazzling Flash ~~has a chance to~~ fail~~, however~~.		As you progress, and as more monsters gain SIn), invisibility shifts from "a buff that can kill most things outright" to "a defense against common/weak monsters". Being invisible won't help one bit against an [[orb of fire]], but it'll make nearby draconians less likely to hit you.

			An alternative is the [[Dazzling Flash]] spell. This level 3 spell has a chance to [[blind]]s opponents, duplicating many of the advantages of invisibility without some of its limitations and affecting many opponents that possess see invisible. However, Dazzling Flash can fail.

	==Monster Version==		==Monster Version==
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	====Casters of invisibility====		====Casters of invisibility====
	Some spellcasting monsters can make themselves invisible:		Some spellcasting monsters can make themselves invisible:
	*{{monsterlink\|Orc wizard}} ~~(66% chance)~~		*{{monsterlink\|Orc wizard}}
	*{{LightCyan\|I}} [[File:Sky beast.png]] '''[[Sky beast]]''' (by inherent ability, not a spell)		*{{LightCyan\|I}} [[File:Sky beast.png]] '''[[Sky beast]]''' (by inherent ability, not a spell)
	*{{Magenta\|p}} [[File:Shadow.png]] '''[[Shadow]]''' (by inherent ability, not a spell)		*{{Magenta\|p}} [[File:Shadow.png]] '''[[Shadow]]''' (by inherent ability, not a spell)
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	*{{monsterlink\|Ogre mage}} ~~(33% chance)~~		*{{monsterlink\|Ogre mage}}
	*{{monsterlink\|Deep elf knight}} ~~(50% chance)~~		*{{monsterlink\|Deep elf knight}}
	*{{Red\|V}} [[File:Vampire (monster).png]] '''[[Vampire (monster)\|Vampire]]'''		*{{Red\|V}} [[File:Vampire (monster).png]] '''[[Vampire (monster)\|Vampire]]'''
	*{{monsterlink\|Vampire knight}}		*{{monsterlink\|Vampire knight}}
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	*{{monsterlink\|Boggart}}		*{{monsterlink\|Boggart}}
	*{{White\|p}} [[File:Necromancer (monster).png]] '''[[Necromancer (monster)\|Necromancer]]'''		*{{White\|p}} [[File:Necromancer (monster).png]] '''[[Necromancer (monster)\|Necromancer]]'''
	*{{Magenta\|p}} [[File:Wizard (monster).png]] '''[[Wizard (monster)\|Wizard]]''' ~~(33% chance)~~		*{{Magenta\|p}} [[File:Wizard (monster).png]] '''[[Wizard (monster)\|Wizard]]'''
	*{{monsterlink\|Draconian knight}}		*{{monsterlink\|Draconian knight}}
	*{{monsterlink\|Lich}} ~~(40% chance)~~		*{{monsterlink\|Lich}}
	*{{monsterlink\|Ancient lich}} ~~(40% chance)~~		*{{monsterlink\|Ancient lich}}
	*{{monsterlink\|Sigmund}}		*{{monsterlink\|Sigmund}}
	*{{monsterlink\|Blork the orc}}		*{{monsterlink\|Blork the orc}}
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	*{{monsterlink\|Erica}}		*{{monsterlink\|Erica}}
	*{{monsterlink\|Maurice}}		*{{monsterlink\|Maurice}}
	*{{monsterlink\|Erolcha}} ~~(33% chance)~~		*{{monsterlink\|Erolcha}}
	*{{monsterlink\|Kirke}}		*{{monsterlink\|Kirke}}
	*{{monsterlink\|Ilsuiw}}		*{{monsterlink\|Ilsuiw}}

imported>Ge0ff at 19:43, 2 August 2023

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	*Every method of turning invisible has its own quirks:		*Every method of turning invisible has its own quirks:
	**Potions are reliable, but are rare and come in limited quantity.		**Potions are reliable, but are rare and come in limited quantity.
	**[[Invisibility (ego)\|Evocable invisibility]] is a renewable source of ~~invisible~~. But finding a source isn't guaranteed. And, even with [[Evocations]] training, the [[drain]] is a very significant cost.		**[[Invisibility (ego)\|Evocable invisibility]] is a renewable source of invisibility. But finding a source isn't guaranteed. And, even with [[Evocations]] training, the [[drain]] is a very significant cost.
	**Shadow Form requires significant [[Invocations]] training to be reliable, carries a significant MP and [[piety]] cost, drains you when activated, further drains you when you take damage, all the while reducing your damage output and spellpower.		**Shadow Form requires significant [[Invocations]] training to be reliable, carries a significant MP and [[piety]] cost, drains you when activated, further drains you when you take damage, all the while reducing your damage output and spellpower.

Hordes: adjust strategy (reliable invisible isn't expected anymore)

2023-08-01T05:21:02Z

adjust strategy (reliable invisible isn't expected anymore)

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	* Seeking monsters will randomly target a nearby tile when the player is within two tiles.<ref>{{source ref\|0.28.0\|mon-behv.cc\|38}}</ref>		* Seeking monsters will randomly target a nearby tile when the player is within two tiles.<ref>{{source ref\|0.28.0\|mon-behv.cc\|38}}</ref>
	* Monsters have a 33% chance to guess the player's tile if the player is right next to them.<ref>{{source ref\|0.28.0\|mon-behv.cc\|217}}</ref>		* Monsters have a 33% chance to guess the player's tile if the player is right next to them.<ref>{{source ref\|0.28.0\|mon-behv.cc\|217}}</ref>
	** Monsters of [[monster intelligence\|human intelligence]] have an extra 8% ~~change~~ to guess the player's position.		** Monsters of [[monster intelligence\|human intelligence]] have an extra 8% chance to guess the player's position.
	** [[Ashenzari]] penance improves the chance of guessing by 50%.		** [[Ashenzari]] penance improves the chance of guessing by 50%.

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	==Strategy==		==Strategy==
	Almost every character benefits tremendously from being invisible. Many difficult enemies can not see invisible, from most monsters in the [[Spider's Nest]], [[~~the~~ Swamp]], or [[~~the~~ Shoals]], to [[list of draconians\|draconians]] and [[death cob]]s in [[Zot]]. [[Ghost moth]]s, themselves invisible, are a pertinent threat to all visible casters. [[Stealth]]y [[stab]]bers benefit most - it greatly enhances your effective stealth and your damage output in melee.		Almost every character benefits tremendously from being invisible. Many difficult enemies can not see invisible, from most monsters in the [[Spider's Nest]], [[Swamp]], and [[Shoals]], to [[list of draconians\|draconians]] and [[death cob]]s in [[Zot]], to [[hellion]]s and [[tormentor]]s in [[extended]]. [[Ghost moth]]s, themselves invisible, are a pertinent threat to all visible casters. [[Stealth]]y [[stab]]bers benefit most - it greatly enhances your effective stealth and your damage output in melee.

	Despite the benefits, there are ~~still significant~~ downsides to invisibility:		Despite the benefits, there are a few downsides to invisibility:
	*The list of monsters capable of seeing invisible is unfortunately rather large (see [[:Category:See invisible]]), making the status effect completely useless against them. By the time you get a reliable means of invisibility, more and more monsters won't care.		*The list of monsters capable of seeing invisible is unfortunately rather large (see [[:Category:See invisible]]), making the status effect completely useless against them. By the time you get a reliable means of invisibility, more and more monsters won't care.
	*Every method of turning invisible has its own quirks:		*Every method of turning invisible has its own quirks:
	**Having an item with [[Invisibility (ego)\|evocable invisibility]] is the most convenient way to gain unlimited access early on, but finding such equipment is by no means guaranteed. Additionally, over-reliance on this ability, especially without significant training in [[Evocations]], will leave you with greatly reduced HP.
	**Potions are reliable, but are rare and come in limited quantity.		**Potions are reliable, but are rare and come in limited quantity.
			**[[Invisibility (ego)\|Evocable invisibility]] is a renewable source of invisible. But finding a source isn't guaranteed. And, even with [[Evocations]] training, the [[drain]] is a very significant cost.
	**Shadow Form requires significant [[Invocations]] training to be reliable, carries a significant MP and [[piety]] cost, drains you when activated, further drains you when you take damage, all the while reducing your damage output and spellpower.		**Shadow Form requires significant [[Invocations]] training to be reliable, carries a significant MP and [[piety]] cost, drains you when activated, further drains you when you take damage, all the while reducing your damage output and spellpower.

	As an alternative, consider learning the [[Dazzling Flash]] spell. This level 3 spell [[blind]]s opponents, duplicating many of the advantages of invisibility without some of its limitations and affecting many opponents that possess see invisible.		As an alternative, consider learning the [[Dazzling Flash]] spell. This level 3 spell [[blind]]s opponents, duplicating many of the advantages of invisibility without some of its limitations and affecting many opponents that possess see invisible. Dazzling Flash has a chance to fail, however.

	==Monster Version==		==Monster Version==

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	** [[Ashenzari]] penance improves the chance of guessing by 50%.		** [[Ashenzari]] penance improves the chance of guessing by 50%.

	Invisibility has no effect if ~~you~~ are in [[water]] (and not [[flying]] above it)<ref>{{source ref\|0.28.0\|player.cc\|6996}}</ref> ~~or if~~ you are [[backlit]] (inflicted by [[Corona]] or [[Sticky Flame]], inside a [[halo]], or if [[magical contamination]] is above 5000).		Invisibility has no effect if:
			*You are in [[water]] and not [[flying]] above it.<ref>{{source ref\|0.28.0\|player.cc\|6996}}</ref>
			*If you are [[backlit]] (inflicted by [[Corona]], hit by [[Sticky Flame]], inside a [[halo]], or if [[magical contamination]] is above 5000).

	===Sources===		===Sources===
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	**Shadow Form requires significant [[Invocations]] training to be reliable, carries a significant MP and [[piety]] cost, drains you when activated, further drains you when you take damage, all the while reducing your damage output and spellpower.		**Shadow Form requires significant [[Invocations]] training to be reliable, carries a significant MP and [[piety]] cost, drains you when activated, further drains you when you take damage, all the while reducing your damage output and spellpower.

	As an alternative~~, consider learning~~ the [[Dazzling Flash]] spell. This level 3 spell [[blind]]s opponents, duplicating many of the advantages of invisibility without some of its limitations and affecting many opponents that possess see invisible. Dazzling Flash ~~has a chance to~~ fail~~, however~~.		As you progress, and as more monsters gain SIn), invisibility shifts from "a buff that can kill most things outright" to "a defense against common/weak monsters". Being invisible won't help one bit against an [[orb of fire]], but it'll make nearby draconians less likely to hit you.

			An alternative is the [[Dazzling Flash]] spell. This level 3 spell has a chance to [[blind]]s opponents, duplicating many of the advantages of invisibility without some of its limitations and affecting many opponents that possess see invisible. However, Dazzling Flash can fail.

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	====Casters of invisibility====		====Casters of invisibility====
	Some spellcasting monsters can make themselves invisible:		Some spellcasting monsters can make themselves invisible:
	*{{monsterlink\|Orc wizard}} ~~(66% chance)~~		*{{monsterlink\|Orc wizard}}
	*{{LightCyan\|I}} [[File:Sky beast.png]] '''[[Sky beast]]''' (by inherent ability, not a spell)		*{{LightCyan\|I}} [[File:Sky beast.png]] '''[[Sky beast]]''' (by inherent ability, not a spell)
	*{{Magenta\|p}} [[File:Shadow.png]] '''[[Shadow]]''' (by inherent ability, not a spell)		*{{Magenta\|p}} [[File:Shadow.png]] '''[[Shadow]]''' (by inherent ability, not a spell)
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	*{{monsterlink\|Ogre mage}} ~~(33% chance)~~		*{{monsterlink\|Ogre mage}}
	*{{monsterlink\|Deep elf knight}} ~~(50% chance)~~		*{{monsterlink\|Deep elf knight}}
	*{{Red\|V}} [[File:Vampire (monster).png]] '''[[Vampire (monster)\|Vampire]]'''		*{{Red\|V}} [[File:Vampire (monster).png]] '''[[Vampire (monster)\|Vampire]]'''
	*{{monsterlink\|Vampire knight}}		*{{monsterlink\|Vampire knight}}
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	*{{monsterlink\|Boggart}}		*{{monsterlink\|Boggart}}
	*{{White\|p}} [[File:Necromancer (monster).png]] '''[[Necromancer (monster)\|Necromancer]]'''		*{{White\|p}} [[File:Necromancer (monster).png]] '''[[Necromancer (monster)\|Necromancer]]'''
	*{{Magenta\|p}} [[File:Wizard (monster).png]] '''[[Wizard (monster)\|Wizard]]''' ~~(33% chance)~~		*{{Magenta\|p}} [[File:Wizard (monster).png]] '''[[Wizard (monster)\|Wizard]]'''
	*{{monsterlink\|Draconian knight}}		*{{monsterlink\|Draconian knight}}
	*{{monsterlink\|Lich}} ~~(40% chance)~~		*{{monsterlink\|Lich}}
	*{{monsterlink\|Ancient lich}} ~~(40% chance)~~		*{{monsterlink\|Ancient lich}}
	*{{monsterlink\|Sigmund}}		*{{monsterlink\|Sigmund}}
	*{{monsterlink\|Blork the orc}}		*{{monsterlink\|Blork the orc}}
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	*{{monsterlink\|Erica}}		*{{monsterlink\|Erica}}
	*{{monsterlink\|Maurice}}		*{{monsterlink\|Maurice}}
	*{{monsterlink\|Erolcha}} ~~(33% chance)~~		*{{monsterlink\|Erolcha}}
	*{{monsterlink\|Kirke}}		*{{monsterlink\|Kirke}}
	*{{monsterlink\|Ilsuiw}}		*{{monsterlink\|Ilsuiw}}

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	'''Guessing your Position'''<br>		'''Guessing your Position'''<br>
	Generally, monsters that can't see you will act like they are [[confused]], without the chance of always moving "correctly". However, they have a chance of guessing your position:		Generally, monsters that can't see you will act like they are [[confused]], without the chance of always moving "correctly". However, they have a chance of guessing your position:
	* Seeking monsters will randomly target a nearby tile when the player is within two tiles.<ref>{{source ref\|0.28.0\|mon-behv.cc\|38}}</ref>		* Seeking monsters will randomly target a nearby tile when the player is within two tiles.<ref>{{source ref\|0.30.1\|mon-behv.cc\|38}}</ref>
	* Monsters have a 33% chance to guess the player's tile if the player is right next to them.<ref>{{source ref\|0.28.0\|mon-behv.cc\|217}}</ref>		* Monsters have a 33% chance to guess the player's tile if the player is right next to them.<ref>{{source ref\|0.30.1\|mon-behv.cc\|217}}</ref>
	** Monsters of [[monster intelligence\|human intelligence]] have an extra 8% chance to guess the player's position.		** Monsters of [[monster intelligence\|human intelligence]] have an extra 8% chance to guess the player's position.
	** [[Ashenzari]] penance improves the chance of guessing by 50%.		** [[Ashenzari]] penance improves the chance of guessing by 50%.

	Invisibility has no effect if:		Invisibility has no effect if:
	*You are in [[water]] and not [[flying]] above it.<ref>{{source ref\|0.28.0\|player.cc\|~~6996~~}}</ref>		*You are in [[water]] and not [[flying]] above it.<ref>{{source ref\|0.30.1\|player.cc\|7174}}</ref>
	*If you are [[backlit]] (inflicted by [[Corona]], hit by [[Sticky Flame]], inside a [[halo]], or if [[magical contamination]] is above 5000).		*If you are [[backlit]] (inflicted by [[Corona]], hit by [[Sticky Flame]], inside a [[halo]], or if [[magical contamination]] is above 5000).

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	*[[Dithmenos]]' [[Shadow Form]] turns you into a shadow, granting intrinsic invisibility.		*[[Dithmenos]]' [[Shadow Form]] turns you into a shadow, granting intrinsic invisibility.

	Regardless of source, player invisibility lasts for <code>15 + 1d([[spell power]])</code> turns (max: 100 turns).<ref>{{source ref\|0.28.0\|potion.cc\|~~441~~}}</ref>		Regardless of source, player invisibility lasts for <code>15 + 1d([[spell power]])</code> turns (max: 100 turns).<ref>{{source ref\|0.30.1\|potion.cc\|500}}</ref>

	==Strategy==		==Strategy==