Identification - Revision history

imported>Draconius at 09:08, 11 July 2026

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	Some items have unknown properties, which can be revealed by '''identification'''. For example, you won't know what a ''murky blue'' [[potion]] does or what a ''glowing'' [[short sword]] is until they are identified. A [[scroll of identify]] is the easiest way to ~~check some items~~, but there are a few other methods as well.		Some items have unknown properties, which can be revealed by '''identification'''. For example, you won't know what a ''murky blue'' [[potion]] does or what a ''glowing'' [[short sword]] is until they are identified. A [[scroll of identify]] is the easiest way to identify consumables, but there are a few other methods as well.

	Press '''\''' for a list of items already identified. While viewing the list, the command '''-''' will toggle the view to items you have not yet identified.		Press '''\''' for a list of items already identified. While viewing the list, the command '''-''' will toggle the view to items you have not yet identified.
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	*All potions and scrolls are identified when used, even if they didn't do anything.		*All potions and scrolls are identified when used, even if they didn't do anything.

	Using an unknown ~~item~~ "blind" will let you identify it faster, but it generally wastes the item you just used. This can be a good thing, since an identified item can help you survive a situation you otherwise would've died in. In any case, some amount of blind use is practically required. This is because scrolls of identify are initially unknown too, meaning you'll have to blind read until you reveal scrolls of identify in the first place.		Using an unknown consumable "blind" will let you identify it faster, but it generally wastes the item you just used. This can be a good thing, since an identified item can help you survive a situation you otherwise would've died in. In any case, some amount of blind use is practically required. This is because scrolls of identify are initially unknown too, meaning you'll have to blind-read until you reveal scrolls of identify in the first place.

	===Read-ID===		===Read-ID===
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	If you are in an emergency situation, and have nothing better to do, you can read unknown scrolls in hopes that the scroll will help. Depending on what you've identified, you may want to drink unknown potions instead.		If you are in an emergency situation, and have nothing better to do, you can read unknown scrolls in hopes that the scroll will help. Depending on what you've identified, you may want to drink unknown potions instead.

	('''*'''It depends on how you found the scrolls. If you find 1 copy of a scroll somewhere, and then find ~~the~~ another copy of the same scroll elsewhere, it's more likely to be a common scroll. But if you find 2-3 copies of a scroll in the same tile, it is no more likely to be a common scroll than usual. This also applies to potions.)		('''*'''It depends on how you found the scrolls. If you find 1 copy of a scroll somewhere, and then find another copy of the same scroll elsewhere, it's more likely to be a common scroll. But if you find 2-3 copies of a scroll in the same tile, it is no more likely to be a common scroll than usual. This also applies to potions.)

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	Like scrolls, when blind quaffing, you should test the most numerous potions. The two most common potions, [[potions of curing]] and [[potion of heal wounds]] are quite useful to know.		Like scrolls, when blind quaffing, you should test the most numerous potions. The two most common potions, [[potions of curing]] and [[potion of heal wounds]] are quite useful to know.

	It's worth noting that potions are somewhat ~~more risky~~ to blind-use than scrolls, since [[potions of mutation]] exist. Potions of mutation can give you terrible mutations, such as [[~~teleportitis~~]] or [[No ~~Unsafe Scrolls~~]]. Therefore, some players may avoid blind-quaffing potions entirely. Note that, in an emergency situation, getting a bad mutation ~~doesn't matter at all~~; don't be afraid to blind quaff if you have no other options.		It's worth noting that potions are somewhat riskier to blind-use than scrolls, since [[potions of mutation]] exist. Potions of mutation can give you terrible mutations, such as [[Teleportitis]] or [[No Potion Heal]]. Therefore, some players may avoid blind-quaffing potions entirely until they've ID'ed mutation potions. Note that, in an emergency situation, getting a bad mutation is better than dying; don't be afraid to blind quaff if you have no other options.

	===Emergency Use-ID===		===Emergency Use-ID===
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	*Any items your [[background]] starts with are automatically identified.		*Any items your [[background]] starts with are automatically identified.
	*If you buy an item from a non-antique [[shop]], then it will be identified.		*If you buy an item from a non-antique [[shop]], then it will be identified.
	**You can buy unidentified harmful ~~items (~~such as [[potions of ~~degeneration~~]] and [[scrolls of noise]]) in order to ID them.		**You can buy unidentified consumables, including harmful ones such as [[potions of moonshine]] and [[scrolls of noise]], in order to ID them.
	[[Ashenzari]] will identify all items on sight once you reach 1 piety.		[[Ashenzari]] will identify all items on sight once you reach 1 piety.
	*Certain pre-generated [[vault]]s may come with items already identified. For example, there is a [[faded altar]] vault with a [[scroll of immolation]] on top of it. If you come across this specific vault, then upon seeing the vault, you'll automatically identify scrolls of immolation for the rest of the game.		*Certain pre-generated [[vault]]s may come with items already identified. For example, there is a [[faded altar]] vault with a [[scroll of immolation]] on top of it. If you come across this specific vault, then upon seeing the vault, you'll automatically identify scrolls of immolation for the rest of the game.

imported>Ge0ff at 12:52, 13 March 2024

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	*All potions and scrolls are identified when used, even if they didn't do anything.		*All potions and scrolls are identified when used, even if they didn't do anything.

	Using an unknown item "blind" will let you identify it faster, but it generally wastes the item you just used. This can be a good thing, since an identified item can help you survive a situation you otherwise would've died in. In any case, some amount of blind use is practically required. This is because scrolls of identify are unknown, meaning you'll have to blind read until you reveal scrolls of identify in the first place.		Using an unknown item "blind" will let you identify it faster, but it generally wastes the item you just used. This can be a good thing, since an identified item can help you survive a situation you otherwise would've died in. In any case, some amount of blind use is practically required. This is because scrolls of identify are initially unknown too, meaning you'll have to blind read until you reveal scrolls of identify in the first place.

	===Read-ID===		===Read-ID===
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	*Be on an ''un''explored level, standing directly on the stairs leading to a clear level.		*Be on an ''un''explored level, standing directly on the stairs leading to a clear level.
	**Being on an unexplored level makes the most out of a [[scroll of revelation]].		**Being on an unexplored level makes the most out of a [[scroll of revelation]].
	**Being on an upstairs lets you retreat in case you read a [[scroll of teleportation]] or a ~~harmful~~ scroll like [[scroll of noise\|noise]].		**Being on an upstairs lets you retreat in case you read a [[scroll of teleportation]] or a dangerous scroll like [[scroll of noise\|noise]].
	*Make sure that no monsters - allied or hostile - are in your [[line of sight]]. This way, you won't blow yourself up with a [[scroll of immolation]].		*Make sure that no monsters - allied or hostile - are in your [[line of sight]]. This way, you won't blow yourself up with a [[scroll of immolation]].
	*You carry at least one enchantable weapon, preferably one you want to [[brand]] or replace the brand of. This makes the most out of [[scrolls of enchant weapon\|enchant weapon]] and [[scroll of brand weapon\|brand weapon]].		*You carry at least one enchantable weapon, preferably one you want to [[brand]] or replace the brand of. This makes the most out of [[scrolls of enchant weapon\|enchant weapon]] and [[scroll of brand weapon\|brand weapon]].

imported>Ge0ff: reword: you can't use an ?id on a glowing item

2024-03-13T12:42:13Z

reword: you can't use an ?id on a glowing item

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	Some items have unknown properties, which can be revealed by '''identification'''. For example, you won't know what a ''murky blue'' [[potion]] does or what a ''glowing'' [[short sword]] is until they are identified. A [[scroll of identify]] is the easiest way to ~~do this~~, but there are a few other methods as well.		Some items have unknown properties, which can be revealed by '''identification'''. For example, you won't know what a ''murky blue'' [[potion]] does or what a ''glowing'' [[short sword]] is until they are identified. A [[scroll of identify]] is the easiest way to check some items, but there are a few other methods as well.

	Press '''\''' for a list of items already identified. While viewing the list, the command '''-''' will toggle the view to items you have not yet identified.		Press '''\''' for a list of items already identified. While viewing the list, the command '''-''' will toggle the view to items you have not yet identified.

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2024-03-12T18:26:56Z

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	*If you buy an item from a non-antique [[shop]], then it will be identified.		*If you buy an item from a non-antique [[shop]], then it will be identified.
	**You can buy unidentified harmful items (such as [[potions of degeneration]] and [[scrolls of noise]]) in order to ID them.		**You can buy unidentified harmful items (such as [[potions of degeneration]] and [[scrolls of noise]]) in order to ID them.
			[[Ashenzari]] will identify all items on sight once you reach 1 piety.
	*Certain pre-generated [[vault]]s may come with items already identified. For example, there is a [[faded altar]] vault with a [[scroll of immolation]] on top of it. If you come across this specific vault, then upon seeing the vault, you'll automatically identify scrolls of immolation for the rest of the game.		*Certain pre-generated [[vault]]s may come with items already identified. For example, there is a [[faded altar]] vault with a [[scroll of immolation]] on top of it. If you come across this specific vault, then upon seeing the vault, you'll automatically identify scrolls of immolation for the rest of the game.
	*If there is only 1 unidentified item of a type (i.e. you find the last unidentified [[potion]] or [[scroll]]), it will be identified for you on sight.		*If there is only 1 unidentified item of a type (i.e. you find the last unidentified [[potion]] or [[scroll]]), it will be identified for you on sight.

Hordes: /* Read-ID */

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Read-ID

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	If you are in an emergency situation, and have nothing better to do, you can read unknown scrolls in hopes that the scroll will help. Depending on what you've identified, you may want to drink unknown potions instead.		If you are in an emergency situation, and have nothing better to do, you can read unknown scrolls in hopes that the scroll will help. Depending on what you've identified, you may want to drink unknown potions instead.

	'''*''' ~~This~~ depends on how you found the ~~scroll~~. If you find 1 copy of a scroll somewhere, and then find the another copy of the same scroll elsewhere, it's more likely to be a common scroll ~~than usual~~. But if you find 2-3 copies of a scroll in the same ~~place~~, it is no more likely to be a common scroll.		('''*'''It depends on how you found the scrolls. If you find 1 copy of a scroll somewhere, and then find the another copy of the same scroll elsewhere, it's more likely to be a common scroll. But if you find 2-3 copies of a scroll in the same tile, it is no more likely to be a common scroll than usual. This also applies to potions.)

	===Quaff-ID===		===Quaff-ID===

Hordes: /* Read-ID */

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Read-ID

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	If you are in an emergency situation, and have nothing better to do, you can read unknown scrolls in hopes that the scroll will help. Depending on what you've identified, you may want to drink unknown potions instead.		If you are in an emergency situation, and have nothing better to do, you can read unknown scrolls in hopes that the scroll will help. Depending on what you've identified, you may want to drink unknown potions instead.

			'''*''' This depends on how you found the scroll. If you find 1 copy of a scroll somewhere, and then find the another copy of the same scroll elsewhere, it's more likely to be a common scroll than usual. But if you find 2-3 copies of a scroll in the same place, it is no more likely to be a common scroll.

	===Quaff-ID===		===Quaff-ID===

Hordes: /* Potions & Scrolls */ mention why a player should blind read

2024-03-12T03:25:22Z

Potions & Scrolls: mention why a player should blind read

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	The most common ways to identify potions and scrolls are as follows:		The most common ways to identify potions and scrolls are as follows:
	*Using a [[scroll of identify]] on the potion or scroll.		*Using a [[scroll of identify]] on the potion or scroll.
	*All potions and scrolls are identified when used, even if they didn't do anything.		*All potions and scrolls are identified when used, even if they didn't do anything.

			Using an unknown item "blind" will let you identify it faster, but it generally wastes the item you just used. This can be a good thing, since an identified item can help you survive a situation you otherwise would've died in. In any case, some amount of blind use is practically required. This is because scrolls of identify are unknown, meaning you'll have to blind read until you reveal scrolls of identify in the first place.

	===Read-ID===		===Read-ID===
	~~Using a scroll of identify is always safe, but reading~~ unknown scrolls can be dangerous, because some scrolls have negative effects. At the same time, you'll want to maximize the positive effects of the scrolls you do read.		Reading unknown scrolls can be dangerous, because some scrolls have negative effects. At the same time, you'll want to maximize the positive effects of the scrolls you do read. If you want to optimize blind reading, you should:

	If you want to optimize "blind~~" scroll~~ reading~~, maximizing safety~~, you should:
	*Be on an ''un''explored level, standing directly on the stairs leading to a clear level.		*Be on an ''un''explored level, standing directly on the stairs leading to a clear level.
	**Being on an unexplored level makes the most out of a [[scroll of revelation]].		**Being on an unexplored level makes the most out of a [[scroll of revelation]].
	**Being on an upstairs lets you retreat in case you read a [[scroll of teleportation]], [[scroll of noise\|noise]]~~, or other harmful scrolls~~.		**Being on an upstairs lets you retreat in case you read a [[scroll of teleportation]] or a harmful scroll like [[scroll of noise\|noise]].
	*Make sure that no monsters - allied or hostile - are in your [[line of sight]]. This way, you won't blow yourself up with a [[scroll of immolation]].		*Make sure that no monsters - allied or hostile - are in your [[line of sight]]. This way, you won't blow yourself up with a [[scroll of immolation]].
	*You carry at least one enchantable weapon, preferably one you want to [[brand]] or replace the brand of. This makes the most out of [[scrolls of enchant weapon\|enchant weapon]] and [[scroll of brand weapon\|brand weapon]].		*You carry at least one enchantable weapon, preferably one you want to [[brand]] or replace the brand of. This makes the most out of [[scrolls of enchant weapon\|enchant weapon]] and [[scroll of brand weapon\|brand weapon]].